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Avid Elixir CR preview

July 2, 2008

Published by acadian


I've been using various Juicy's on all my bikes for a few years now and have developed a very close bond with them. They are simple, low maintenance, reliable and super easy to bleed and in my opinion were perfect – but I guess not perfect enough for the tireless designers and engineers at Avid. I was pleasantly surprised to see Avid launch a totally new brake at the Sea Otter Classic this year – the Elixir R.

Miles “ShovelPick” just recently gave you a good overview of the Elixir R brake earlier this week. Seeing how the Elixir R did not feature Avid's popular pad contact adjustment, I knew there had to be another Elixir model in the works. Well here it is – the Elixir CR. Just like the Elixir R the CR model gives you more control, usable power and comfort, but with the addition of a super sweet in-line Pad Contact adjuster and optional Carbon lever. Both the Reach adjuster and Contact Pad adjuster have detents and are tool-free. Each click of the Reach adjuster equals 1mm. The Contact Pad barrel has 24 clicks which is about 2 full turns.

OE Elixir CR with aluminum blade



Aftermarket Elixir CR with Carbon blade


The Elixir CR will be replacing the now discontinued Juicy Carbon. Like mentioned previously, the Juicy Carbon are pretty sweet brakes, but not perfect. Some of the master cylinder internal parts, like the rubber seals, had a tendency to wear out prematurely. Not something noticeable to the naked eye but if you bleed your own brakes you've probably noticed some small rubber particles come out the master cylinder every now and again. Over time, this causes sealing and drag issues. The Elixir uses a rolling bladder design, which means the secondary seal on the back is now static and only the front one moves. This reduces drag and seals don't wear out as quickly.


To better manage heat, Avid engineers designed a bigger grooved piston. The grooves allow for additional air flow in the pocketing behind the pad. The pads also have a new shape; therefore older Juicy pads won't work with the new Elixir brakes. I've mentioned this in a previous article but thought I'd mention it again - the pistons rolls in a seal and doesn't actually travel through a cylinder bowl. The seal open up and the piston will rock out, then and as you release the lever the seal pulls the piston back in.

Grooved Piston


The distance between the push rod and center of the lever pivot has been reduced to give you an effective longer lever. This gives you a slighter softer feel at the beginning of the pull so you don't have to work as hard to create more power toward the end of the pull. So less initial bite and more control throughout the throw of the lever. The Elixir R and CR share the same features, the man differences are the Contact Pad adjustment, Carbon lever blades and Banjo Adjust on the caliper.

Bleed Block


The two piece caliper has a bigger top opening allowing for top loading of the pads. The Elixir caliper uses a threaded pad retainer bolt which can be removed using a 2.5mm hex wrench or your RockShox rebound knob. Elixir brakes come with a Bleed Block which has many uses. You can use it while traveling to keep the pads separated. You can use it during the bleeding process to keep your pistons in; just remove the pads and insert the Bleed Block. Last but not least, it can be used to open your pre or post bleed refreshments. I was told intensive R&D was perform – wish I was part of that R&D group ;o) Worth mentioning is that the bleeding process is the same as Juicy's and you can use the same bleed kit.


What else?
• Aftermarket Elixir CR's will come with carbon lever blades while the OE brakes will have the choice of aluminum (as seen in the pictures) or Carbon levers.
• The power of the Elixir sits halfway between the Juicy and Code, but with better modulation than the Juicy.
• Convex CPS Hardware washers are now made of stainless. Being harder, they are less likely to deform over time.
• Carbon lever blades will be available aftermarket. Juicy Carbon blades will not fit Elixir's
• Breakaway lever with a few mm of reverse throw to prevent damage in the event of a crash
• The hose stop on the Elixir CR act as a swivel. This means no more winding up of the housing when cutting your lines and tightening the compression nut.
• DOT 5.1 fluid for better heat management/resistance

Price and weight:
• Elixir CR w/160mm rotor and Carbon Blade: $204 US per wheel
• Elixir CR w/185mm rotor and Carbon Blade: $208 US per wheel
• Elixir CR w/205mm rotor and Carbon Blade: $212 US per wheel

• Available: August 2008

160mm G2 CleanSweep rotor vs New 160mm G3 CleanSweep rotor


Front Juicy Carbon vs Front Elixir CR


Initial impressions:
I got a chance to ride the new Elixir CR brakes and holy powerful batman are they ever strong!! Compared to Juicy's, they have less initial grab but overall have more usable power. The lever feels similar to Juicy's; stiff and crisp. The tools free reach adjuster is a nice feature,especially if you need to do on-the-trail adjustments.

OE Elixir CR with aluminum blade


They were silent and no sign of brake shudder. The conditions were dry and the trails we rode were pretty dusty, so they might sound (or maybe not) differently in the wet.


Another great brake from Avid! I'm a bit sad to see the Juicy Carbon go away, but Elixir CR improved look and added features makes, without a doubt, a solid replacement.




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  • + 10 props
flag andybrown (July 5, 2008 at 3:45) (Below Threshold) show comment
they look like sick brakes!
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flag bonkfisher5 (July 5, 2008 at 8:40) (Below Threshold) show comment
The contact adjustment is sweet, looks really easy. also it looks like a sweet brake overall.
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flag tremblay (July 5, 2008 at 16:22) (Below Threshold) show comment
sexy, i think ill buy one.
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flag shibbydirtjumper (July 5, 2008 at 17:24) (Below Threshold) show comment
hayes 4 life
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flag trekrules (July 6, 2008 at 3:09) (Below Threshold) show comment
you fail
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flag CruzinV10 (July 6, 2008 at 21:39) (Below Threshold) show comment
hayes suck dude
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flag adrenaline-rush (July 6, 2008 at 21:57) (Below Threshold) show comment
i need sum new brakes cuz my hayes suck the nuts, deffinatly gonna get these!!!
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flag giant0rider (July 7, 2008 at 18:44) (Below Threshold) show comment
i feel that they are a very bed design, especially saying they are a mix between code and juicy, i cant wait to see some idiot come down the mountain with a snapped master cylinder, or at least a smashed pad contact knob
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flag Kubaa (July 5, 2008 at 3:51) (Below Threshold) show comment
Wooow sick brake !!
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flag dg85 (July 5, 2008 at 3:52) (Below Threshold) show comment
new bits are looking good for next year.
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flag Thue (July 5, 2008 at 3:57) (Below Threshold) show comment
they are okay, but they could make the caliper better looking!
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flag newbikesoon (July 5, 2008 at 4:21) (Below Threshold) show comment
instead of making them look like a hayes
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flag Thue (July 5, 2008 at 4:30) (Below Threshold) show comment
eksakly! it is only formula and hope ho makes nice calipers
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flag bikeflf (July 5, 2008 at 9:50) (Below Threshold) show comment
and gator, there like 8 piston brakes
  • + 5 props
flag WOMENANDBIKES (July 5, 2008 at 10:27) (Below Threshold) show comment
but 8 pistons is just overkill
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flag mtballtheway (July 5, 2008 at 4:49) (Below Threshold) show comment
anything with a bottle opener built in has me sold
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flag apioqm (July 5, 2008 at 5:15) (Below Threshold) show comment
They don't get much better then that...
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flag old-hucker (July 5, 2008 at 5:32) (Below Threshold) show comment
What do they use for brake fluid?
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flag lexmyr (July 5, 2008 at 7:20) (Below Threshold) show comment
I'm surprised if it's anything but DOT 5.1.
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flag skylerd (July 5, 2008 at 12:50) (Below Threshold) show comment
whole milk. best fluid.
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flag sebsta (July 5, 2008 at 6:13) (Below Threshold) show comment
They look awesome! I want some!
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flag Sebas372 (July 5, 2008 at 6:14) (Below Threshold) show comment
Elixir is lighter than carbon and is not the version who haves the carbon lever WOOOW
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flag acadian (July 5, 2008 at 9:35) (Below Threshold) show comment
and no Ti hardware. if you get Juicy carbon ti bolt kit, they they will be even lighter.
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flag G916 (July 5, 2008 at 6:58) (Below Threshold) show comment
avids, easy to bleed?! not the 7's,pain in the tits!
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flag acadian (July 5, 2008 at 9:36) (Below Threshold) show comment
if you have the Avid Bleed kit, they are super easy to bleed.
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flag hondarider360 (July 5, 2008 at 8:42) (Below Threshold) show comment
i think these are sick and the bottle opener is just f*ckn hilarious! good job team avid!
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flag lexmyr (July 5, 2008 at 9:32) (Below Threshold) show comment
They look pretty awesome yeah, nice that brakes are not only being made for raw braking power but also better feel and sensitivity. Can't wait to ride them on my Session 88 next year
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flag tingeybiker (July 5, 2008 at 11:37) (Below Threshold) show comment
so they have more power then a juicy7 lighter and are less expensive right???
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flag crazydownhiller69 (July 5, 2008 at 12:01) (Below Threshold) show comment
yes. they are in between a juicy 7 and codes.. as for less expensive.. i dont know. i think they might end up around the same price
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flag shaughnl (July 5, 2008 at 12:39) (Below Threshold) show comment
the prices are right above the weights for all who couldn't find it. looks like i got some new brakes for my demo build next year
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flag konad (July 5, 2008 at 13:26) (Below Threshold) show comment
avid syndrome right here!!
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flag johnbb (July 5, 2008 at 13:30) (Below Threshold) show comment
i have juicy sevens so im a believer in avid but these look freaking amazing!
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flag norcofaze (July 5, 2008 at 13:45) (Below Threshold) show comment
i want that G3 rotor on my bike
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flag rocko6 (July 5, 2008 at 14:03) (Below Threshold) show comment
cool stuff, very compact
i am courious if they managed to reduce the lever wobble that appears by the time you use, it looks promising
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flag nothingbetter (July 5, 2008 at 14:25) (Below Threshold) show comment
when i first saw the reddish bit on the lever assembly i thought it was tape, then i watched the video. good timing for this review...im looking for some new stoppers
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flag khslova (July 5, 2008 at 16:24) (Below Threshold) show comment
ill think of them when im ut for new brakes
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flag hostilebiker (July 5, 2008 at 17:17) (Below Threshold) show comment
when do they come out
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flag creamsoda89 (July 6, 2008 at 23:17) (Below Threshold) show comment
RTFA
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flag ilovemanitou (July 5, 2008 at 18:21) (Below Threshold) show comment
they look gay. why does everybody have to have something new! i love my hayes purple's! best brakes ever!
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flag jacky27hk (July 5, 2008 at 18:31) (Below Threshold) show comment
I reali like the new style rotor, looks MINt and good price too!! |^.^
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flag pedalpower7443 (July 5, 2008 at 20:10) (Below Threshold) show comment
my avid juicy 5's get weak after one run at whistler that the lever hits my handlebar. then i let it sit for 5 minutes and its back to normal. i dont like it!
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flag jason114 (July 5, 2008 at 20:26) (Below Threshold) show comment
get them bled properly maybe^^^^
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flag gsteeze (July 5, 2008 at 20:34) (Below Threshold) show comment
i might just have bad luck or something cuz iv had two pair and theyve broken instantly. but those brakes look pretty cool
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flag bikeaddiked101 (July 5, 2008 at 22:15) (Below Threshold) show comment
they look like ok breaks but im kinda of worried about durability of the lever and the connector it's really small making me wonder if it's able to take a beating and still work lol can any one help me out on my opinion
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flag marc55 (July 6, 2008 at 17:13) (Below Threshold) show comment
those l;ook sick whats the price value at?
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flag Bigfoot12 (July 12, 2008 at 8:38) (Below Threshold) show comment
when do the brakes come out to buy?
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flag MathiasROlsen (July 31, 2008 at 14:23) (Below Threshold) show comment
It will be available in August 2008.

Such a nice brake! I want them!

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